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January 2016 marked the 40th anniversary of the Antique Motorcycle Club of Manitoba.
2016 will also mark the 40th Annual Corn Roast at the Choquette’s later this year.
FAIL SAFE ANTI WET-SUMPING VALVE
For the un-iniated, Classic British motorcycles are prone to wet-sumping after an extended lay-over period, such as Canada’s long cold winters, and in some bad cases even after a couple of weeks. Because of their dry sump design where oil is stored in a separate tank, then fed through the engine under pressure from the oil pump and returned to the tank from the bottom of the crankcase by a “scavenger” pump or return pump, oil tends to leak through the oil pump and collect at the bottom of the crankcase. The more worn the pump the worse the bypass leak is. Gear type pumps (Norton and AJS/Matchless Twins) are worse than plunger type pumps (Triumph/ AJS & Matchless singles) Whilst slightly worn pumps will deliver pressurized oil satisfactorily and not be in need of an expensive overhaul or replacement, the wet-sumping problem is a tiresome nuisance on start-up after lay-over, and in extreme cases can cause excess crankcase pressure with oil leaking all over and even blown gaskets, before the scavenger pump has time to pump the excess oil back into the tank.
Not to mention clouds of blue smoke until the oil is cleared. My neighbour came running one spring start up thinking my garage was on fire!
There has been much written about solutions for curing wet-sumping. Commercial parts suppliers offer various types of anti wet-sumping valves with prices varying from $35 to $300. The simplest and cheapest consist of a steel ball closing on a seat under spring pressure and rely on the pumps suction to draw the ball off the seat and allow the life preserving oil to flow to the pump. The internet is full of stories about what happens when these valves DON”T open and the spectacular melt-downs that take place between the riders legs shortly afterwards and not far down the road!
The simplest of all is to install an on/off valve on the hose between the tank and the pump. This of course relies on the rider/owner remembering to turn it off before lay-over and most importantly, to turn it ON BEFORE RE-STARTING!
Therein lies the problem. Murphy always intervenes and there are as many internet stories about how he forgot and trashed a first out restored beauty that he had been restoring for the last five years!
The most expensive valves incorporate some form of fail safe device that does not allow the bike to be started until the valve is opened. The other option is to go the expensive route and rebuild or renew an oil pump which is still giving a more than adequate oil delivery. It is also not unknown for some rebuilt pumps to still leak oil past.
Always on the look-out for a better and cheaper way I bought a ball type lever valve with hose barb on both ends from Rona for under $10 and a Honeywell model WWG24A302 3 terminal limit switch from Acklands Grainger for $4.63 I drilled two small holes in the brass valve body and tapped them to accept two machine screws. This has to be done like porcupines making love ie; CAREFULLY! Not too deep so as not to interfere with the stainless steel ball or the teflon seals. A small bracket was made using 1″ aluminium angle cut to size and drilled accordingly, with slotted holes so that the switch could be positioned so that the heel of the valve lever would actuate the switch arm/roller. With one ground terminal and two other make and break terminals it was possible to wire the limit switch to cut out the ignition switch or ground out a magneto through the stop/grounding button. Thus the bike will not start until the valve has been opened and that life-preserving golden liquid is flowing to that oil pump and giving a finger to our old friend Murphy!
The 2014 Bison Classic Motorcycle Rally was a great success and some thank yous need to go out.
Show N Shine- John Thompson
Photography-Erv Peters, Gord Peters
Prizes – Tim Klassen
Regalia-Rick Peters, Mike Baraschuk
And the many more that stepped up and helped a little or a lot and also to all that attended.
If you are interested in a DVD slide show of the Rally weekend contact us via email or at a meeting to order a copy. Cost is $5.00 and all the money goes to the The Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus Association of Manitoba.
The 2013 Bison Rally is in the books for another year and by all accounts it was a great success.
Here are a few pics from Saturday.
Thanks to all that organized and helped in making this a successful event.
HE LIVES IN WELLINGTON CRESCENT,
AND THE PARTY WAS VERY PLEASANT.
FELL ASLEEP AT THE TABLE – –
AND SO WAS NOT ABLE,
TO GO UP AND FETCH HIS PRESENT !
Rub with a cloth and “Ceramabrite”; the white paste your wife uses to clean her glass top stove. ( Make sure to take it when she is not looking! My wife remains eternally suspicious after I washed my motorcycle engine halves in her dish washer!)
For real stubborn marks grade 00 Superfine steel wool works wonders. ( Also to be found amongst her cleaning things!)
Charter member Bert Bentley (deceased) donated a trophy that is awarded annually to the club member with the best restored motorcycle.
Bert was quite the enthusiast / collector and an article was published about him in “The Antique Motorcycle” a newsletter from the AMCA.
BISON CLASSIC MOTORCYCLE RALLY 2012
Friday June 29 dawned bright and sunny with a gentle breeze to cool things down. Absolute perfect rally weather. Early members of the organizing committee began arriving at the arena from 10am and the urgent business of getting ready began. Rally signs had been put up at road intersections on the way. Banners and bunting was erected, tables and chairs put out in the dining area, and paraphernalia for the motorcycle games was brought in. Those in charge of catering started preparing their multiple tasks to provide the four meals included in the $45 rally cost.
Soon the motorhomes, camper trailers and tenters on their motorcycles started to drift in, and the Registration table was hard-pressed to cope. The day got hotter but this didn’t stop the participants from enjoying a chili supper and a two-guitar hoot -n -nanny around the bonfire. A banjo joined later and festivities continued on till late.
Saturday 30th was the main day with a Parade through town beginning at 9.30am and culminating with a Show & Shine in the Credit Union parking lot. Over 130 classic and vintage motorcycles registered for the show and the many spectators were not disappointed. There were many more spectators than last year thanks to more local advertising of the event. Motorcycles lined both sides of the main street from bikers who had ridden in just to view the classics on display. The weather played it’s part again and although very hot there was no rain or wind. A local church group did a roaring trade selling bottled water & pop plus delicious farmer sausage buns. The games went off very well and about 130 hungry bikers ended up in the arena for a scrumptious steak or chicken dinner, live music and Trophy awards. The bonfire was again popular till late.
Sunday morning saw two groups ; a slow shorter run for the older classic machines, and a faster, longer ride for the more modern bikes, on a “River Run” and Poker Derby. No less than 42 motorcycles took part with all back at 11am to partake of a delicious sausage, egg and potato Brunch. Packing and cleaning up commenced, final farewells said, and the bikers roared off shouting that they would be back next year!
Another highly successful Bison Classic Rally under the belt with the Rally Committee geared for a “de-briefing” meeting soon and then plans begin right away for the 13th Annual Bison Rally in 2013.
The original AMCM constitution form 1977
Have a read … click on the picture
* Note The AMCM constitution was updated in 2014 to better reflect changes in technology and club needs. A copy of the new constitution may be requested by any current member.
This is our 40th year but 10 years ago Ross Metcalfe addressed the the club with a bit of interesting history.
Antique Motorcycle Club of Manitoba
Submitted by Ross Metcalfe
It is well known that Siggi and I organized the club back in January of 1977. The first meeting was held at the old Rothman’s board office on St. James Street.
There was free coffee and free small sample packages of cigarettes for all members who attended. It was an excellent meeting place.
In January of 1977, 16 members paid their $5.00 dues and thus began the AMCM. By the March meeting, the membership had swelled to 26.
Although some may say the first meeting constitutes a charter member,
I would like to let the record reflect that anyone who joined in 1977 would be referred to as a charter member.
And so, here they are:
January 1977 meeting As of Nov2011
Ross Metcalfe active member
Siggi Klann active member
Jim Bailey active member
Bert Bentley deceased
Tim Forrest deceased
Len Hardy deceased
Jim Harrison active member
Cam Lennerton deceased
Dave Oates deceased
Allan Proctor deceased
Tiny Robins deceased
Fletcher Reid deceased; his son still owns his Indian Chief
Graeme Smith active member
Barry Seib active member
Stan Townsend in the neighborhood
Ed Wiebe deceased; his ‘38 Chief went to Regina
John & Pat Choquette active members
Jake Dyck not known
Tom Ellison moved out of province
Laddie Nos deceased
Philip Paterson not known
Jim Simmons deceased (2012)
Jim Gold in the neighborhood
Ray Houde active member
Pat Larmigan not known
T. H. Metcalfe deceased
Here is the updated list of Past Presidents:
1977 Ross Metcalfe
1978 Ross Metcalfe
1979 Jim Harrison
1980 Jim Simmons
1981 Ed Pauch
1982 Mike Baraschuk
1983 Randy Maunder
1984 Craig Kraft
1985 Craig Kraft
1986 Barry Seib
1987 Siggi Klann
1988 Ed Maisey
1989 Ed Maisey
1990 Ed Maisey
1991-2001 Jim Harrison
2002 Jerry Stubbington
2003 Jerry Stubbington
2004 Greg O’Kane
2005 Greg O’Kane
2006 Jim Reimer
2007 Jim Reimer
2008 Jerry Stubbington
2009 Jerry Stubbington
2010 Ross Metcalfe
2011 Ross Metcalfe
2012 Ross Metcalfe
2013 Ross Metcalfe
2014 Ross Metcalfe
2015 Ross Metcalfe
2016 Rick Poirier
2017 Rick Poirier
2018 Rick Poirier
2019 Barry Fudge
2020 Kim Robinson
Updated July 2019
Only the more expensive “split” oil filters are now available from BMW, and this as a kit only for about $24 each, excluding shipping.
The “split” filter is made for machines fitted with oil coolers which seem to be in the minority. (I’ve never seen one, but then I’m no expert!)
The “straight” filter is obtainable from K&N Filters, Their part # KN161, for $7.98 each. My local Napa Auto Parts ordered in for me and shipping for two filters was a further $10. Admittedly this doesn’t include the all-important white “O” Ring. This can be ordered separately from your usual BMW supplier @ $1.97 each. Part # 11 421 337 098 According to the airhead “boffs” this used to be referred to as “the $1000 “O” Ring”, because of the rather spectacular consequences if it didn’t seal properly. Now with the passing of time and inflation it is “the $3000 “O”Ring”!
Moral of the story. DO replace the “O” Ring with a new one every time you change the oil and the filter.
PS Owners of older British bikes please ignore this advice. Your bike doesn’t even HAVE a filter and anyway, with the way they all leak oil,they don’t need a filter because the oil is always fresh!
AMAL Concentric MK1 Carburetor Re- builds. By Tom Hesom
This is intended for those whose interest is in the restoration of British motorcycles fitted with Amal carbs, and directed more to machines built up from basket cases than to runners. Much has been written about these often maligned instruments by more knowledgeable “wrenchers” than I, so I don’t profess to be an expert, but I have “fiddled” with the confounded things for long enough to have learned a few things, and continue to learn more.
For instance my freshly restored Triumph Bonnie would only run on one side until John T found that one carb had no in-body pilot jet! More recently more trouble with my BSA Lightning only to find that one spray tube was missing from one carb. The spray tube is the brass tube visible through the bore and like the in-body pilot jet is not normally removed as it is a friction fit and has to be tapped into place.
Most troubles by far however are caused by wear between the carb body and the slide. Because Amals were built to a price dictated by the always-cash-strapped British motorcycle industry, they used the same soft alloy material for both body and slide which they knew as well as anybody was conducive to fast wear. This wear causes all sorts of problems but mainly the inability to get the machine to idle because of excess air being drawn past the slide.
Only solution is to buy new carburetors, but if it is a twin carb bike this can be expensive. New Amal MK1 carbs are available from Walridge Motors, Lucan, Ontario @ $200 each plus shipping and handling. If you have a Monobloc or an even earlier Amal, they are also available at about double this price. email; email@example.com Web www.walridge.com
In my view a better option is to have your old carbs re-sleeved. The bore is honed out to true and the slide is sleeved with brass. This then obviates the same- metal problem and you have a BETTER than new instrument! (With the proviso of course that you also re-new any worn jets or needles at the same time) I sent my carb bodies and slides to Bruce Chessell in Ontario by ordinary Canada Post. Bruce did a magnificent job in under a week and returned them promptly without asking for advance payment! Said he would email me the price and return postage and I could send my cheque! Rare trust these days!
Cost $75-00 per carb = $150-00 plus postage $14-50 each way = $29-00 Total $179-00
Plus two Carb Kits (gasket sets) # CGS900 @ $3-00 ea 6-00
Plus two Tickler Conversion Kits (no more gas on finger!) @ $6-65 ea 13-30
Postage and Insurance 7-70
Overall cost $206-00 Bruce Chessell’s address; 314 Knightsbridge Rd,
N4S 7C4 Email; firstname.lastname@example.org
PS This price was even further reduced. The Right-hand carb body had other problems besides wear in the bore and slide and could not be used for re-sleeving. I put an ad in our newsletter and before it even came out Dave Pritchard said “How many do you want!?!” and for no charge! Thanks Dave! One of the many advantages of belonging to a super motorcycle club!
Another Tip for Twin Amal Carbs
If you have difficulty getting the slides to rise simultaneously by a feeling finger in each carb intake and have no-one to operate the twist-grip,
– – Here is the answer;- – –
Put two 1/8″ drill bits shank first into the carb mouths just under the slide cut-aways. (with air filters off of course.) Two thirds of the bits should stick out and hang down slightly. Adjust the cable adjusters until both bits drop simultaneously when you crack the throttle.
This way you can get both slides to rise evenly on your own. Then proceed in the usual way with both air filters back on, to set one carb idle at a time by removing one plug on fast idle and adjusting on the opposite side until they run smoothly, then reduce the revs to a nice idle with both plugs in and both sides firing.
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On July 1st, 2nd and 3rd The Antique Motorcycle Club of Manitoba and the Keystone Section of the CVMG combined to showcase the finest display of rare vintage and classic motorcycles in Manitoba.
It was an Huge Success!…
Many Thanks to:
The Organizing committee – comprised of members of both clubs
The town of Niverville
All of our many sponsors
Over 83 people registered for the entire weekend, and a dozen more registered for Saturday!
This little Indian Junior Scout was the fastest of its kind in the world. In 10 months, the Thunder Road Racing Team, under the direction of the head designer and rider, Ted Hector, had taken a basket case 1938 Indian and turned it into the world’s fastest, and arguably a piece of art, vintage 500 cc motorcycle.
For more reading on this historic achievement and participation of our members
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